Author Topic: NBL MAFIA VOLUME 2 - DAY ONE (Read 8255 times)

GM Powers · « **Reply #50 on:** August 07, 2016, 08:56:44 PM »

Fuckin' mowons!

GM Jon · « **Reply #51 on:** August 07, 2016, 09:04:55 PM »

GM Kirk · « **Reply #52 on:** August 07, 2016, 09:19:07 PM »

Why do people always use these things on day 1, when we have no information?

GM Jon · « **Reply #53 on:** August 07, 2016, 09:30:52 PM »

Trolling?

GM Kirk · « **Reply #54 on:** August 07, 2016, 09:42:56 PM »

In that case, it was well worth it.

Talon · « **Reply #55 on:** August 07, 2016, 10:06:42 PM »

...wow, why would anyone think Dreadrick Tatum would be scum?

GM Franchise · « **Reply #56 on:** August 07, 2016, 10:50:39 PM »

Quote from: Talon on August 07, 2016, 10:06:42 PM

...wow, why would anyone think Dreadrick Tatum would be scum?

Didn't do research or wasn't a part of the NBL?

GM TJ II · « **Reply #57 on:** August 07, 2016, 11:01:51 PM »

DAY ONE ENDS IN A NO LYNCH.

NIGHT TALKING IS ALLOWED.

OU HAVE 24 HOURS TO GET YOUR NIGHT ACTIONS IN.

GM Pancho · « **Reply #58 on:** August 08, 2016, 12:40:45 PM »

Fnord is in this game?

GM TJ II · « **Reply #59 on:** August 09, 2016, 12:08:40 AM »

As night falls in New York, inside the bare IBF offices, Nixon Kennedy-Johnson sits in a large leather chair as the door opens.

Nixon Kennedy-Johnson: Highway, what can I do for you?

Highway Dunn: Well, I got a job, which I like. Thank you, but I need some thrill. You left me a good, disciplined, team. Ain’t no challenge. Give me a challenge friend.

NKJ slides him an envelope, which Highway opens.

Highway Dunn: Thanks.

He leaves the office.

---

At the airport, Justin is waiting to claim his bag. He is approached by John Meeks, who greets his with a punch in the face. Justin is knocked out on his feet and falls forward, his neck landing on the edge of the baggage claim, snapping. Blood start to come out of his mouth as his assailant walks away. Amini Fatu comes “running” in in shock.

Amini Fatu: KISH! NO! KISH!

DEAD: JUSTIN - RIKISHI USO - TOWN NEIGHBOR

---

As sun begins to come up we see Jorge Chacon walking out a building wearing a NAMBLA shirt.

Jorge Chacon: Adios Timmy! I’ll see you next week. Awesome slumber party!

He walks out into alley and trips over something. He looks back and he sees….

DEAD: JON - CLOVER FIELDS - 1x TOWN VIGILANTE

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PLAYER LIST

1. Doug
2. Talon
3. Franchise
4. Metro
5. Pancho
6. Kirk
7. Digger
8. Gates

IT IS NOW DAY TWO! YOU HAVE 72 HOURS TO REACH A LYNCH. WITH 8 ALIVE IT TAKES 5 TO REACH A LYNCH

GM Metroll · « **Reply #60 on:** August 09, 2016, 10:57:41 AM »

No scum kill ... VOTE: DIGGER

Dougie · « **Reply #61 on:** August 09, 2016, 12:21:14 PM »

Actually something to that or just going back to last day's vote?

GM Metroll · « **Reply #62 on:** August 09, 2016, 01:20:13 PM »

Quote from: Dougie on August 09, 2016, 12:21:14 PM

Actually something to that or just going back to last day's vote?

Knuckles is the only person I lynch on policy. Unless someone has a better reason for no NK my vote will be Digger.

GM Pancho · « **Reply #63 on:** August 09, 2016, 05:48:22 PM »

I smell what the Metro is cooking

Vote: Digger

GM Gravedigger · « **Reply #64 on:** August 09, 2016, 06:06:13 PM »

So is still a policy vote or are you saying I'm scum and forgot to send in a kill?

GM Kirk · « **Reply #65 on:** August 09, 2016, 08:00:59 PM »

I see what Metro is saying, but I think the write-up suggests a different reason for no scum kill.

GM Gates · « **Reply #66 on:** August 09, 2016, 08:31:36 PM »

Man, I'm so out of practice at this game...

I see what Metro is saying, but I don't know if it's as cut and dry as that. Unless he's 100% without a doubt about it.

GM Franchise · « **Reply #67 on:** August 09, 2016, 09:07:15 PM »

Quote from: GM Gates on August 09, 2016, 08:31:36 PM

I see what Metro is saying, but I don't know if it's as cut and dry as that. Unless he's 100% without a doubt about it.

This is how I feel about it as well. I'd like to hear a little more about it to be honest.

GM Kirk · « **Reply #68 on:** August 09, 2016, 09:11:37 PM »

To me, the write-up seems to suggest that Highway was given a contract by Nixon. I think it's possible that we will see a kill during the day phase or the following night. I can't think what else that red conversation was about. I don't know if Digger is scum or not, but I don't think it's quite as cut-and-dry as Metro makes out.

Dougie · « **Reply #69 on:** August 10, 2016, 12:49:54 PM »

Quote from: GM Metroll on August 09, 2016, 01:20:13 PM

Knuckles is the only person I lynch on policy. Unless someone has a better reason for no NK my vote will be Digger.

Perhaps so but Digger was your joke vote and not something that was derived from gameplay substance.

GM Metroll · « **Reply #70 on:** August 10, 2016, 03:38:52 PM »

Quote from: Dougie on August 10, 2016, 12:49:54 PM

Perhaps so but Digger was your joke vote and not something that was derived from gameplay substance.

I understood your question Doug - I don't have a policy on Digger that would span in to day 2, he's just my normal day 1 vote.

Talon · « **Reply #71 on:** August 10, 2016, 03:41:53 PM »

I mean, I did just see this happen with Metro and Knuckles in another game.

Another reason I don't like to policy vote the same person all the time, then if you get info on them early it is hard to sell.

GM Metroll · « **Reply #72 on:** August 10, 2016, 03:50:11 PM »

Quote from: Talon on August 10, 2016, 03:41:53 PM

I mean, I did just see this happen with Metro and Knuckles in another game.

Another reason I don't like to policy vote the same person all the time, then if you get info on them early it is hard to sell.

And Knuckles was scum -- you don't have to like the play but everyone alive has weighed in today. Is Kirk correct that there could be another reason yes - but does anyone have anything else to go on? I want someone else to present a case but until then I vote with my info today.

Talon · « **Reply #73 on:** August 10, 2016, 04:09:46 PM »

Vote Gravedigger

I've got nothing, unless anyone else has something to offer?

GM Gravedigger · « **Reply #74 on:** August 10, 2016, 04:25:59 PM »

I can see this will be a shitty game from the start....

If it matters to anyone, my neighbor died last night...

Talon · « **Reply #75 on:** August 10, 2016, 04:27:25 PM »

The only tricky thing there is that Neighbors aren't always town/town, masons are.

GM Gravedigger · « **Reply #76 on:** August 10, 2016, 04:28:41 PM »

Well, this one is town/town, but no one seems to give a shit what my alignment is...

Talon · « **Reply #77 on:** August 10, 2016, 04:46:02 PM »

I care, but its pretty convenient that you are claiming to have been neighbored with the dead player, who can't verify to clear you.

If nobody counter claims you I'll unvote, Im not saying you're lying, its just tough clear you in my view.

GM Gravedigger · « **Reply #78 on:** August 10, 2016, 04:51:48 PM »

I can only tell you what I am. That's it. I've got nothing else...

GM Gates · « **Reply #79 on:** August 10, 2016, 09:45:54 PM »

Tough spot. On one hand we don't have any other information to go off of, but on the other Diggers claim might be true and if it is and he's town then we're already going to be up a creek very early on if we lynch him.

GM Metroll · « **Reply #80 on:** August 10, 2016, 09:51:13 PM »

Quote from: GM Gates on August 10, 2016, 09:45:54 PM

Tough spot. On one hand we don't have any other information to go off of, but on the other Diggers claim might be true and if it is and he's town then we're already going to be up a creek very early on if we lynch him.

FOS: CJ

This is fence sitting to the nth degree. I really, really, really do not like this post.

GM Gates · « **Reply #81 on:** August 10, 2016, 09:54:06 PM »

Yeah, it was. But I really just don't have anything to add. I don't really feel confident in the Digger lynch, but nothing else has come out to me. I guess I could have just not posted and waited.

GM Kirk · « **Reply #82 on:** August 10, 2016, 10:03:16 PM »

I don't see the value in a Digger lynch. There's not enough evidence to say he's scum and if he's town we don't learn anything because Metro's info is a perfectly reasonable excuse for voting Digger. With three town down already, I'm not inclined to vote for someone just for the sake of getting a lynch. If it had some value, I'd be on board. I don't have any other case to make, though.

Dougie · « **Reply #83 on:** August 10, 2016, 10:31:47 PM »

Quote from: GM Metroll on August 10, 2016, 03:38:52 PM

I understood your question Doug - I don't have a policy on Digger that would span in to day 2, he's just my normal day 1 vote.

I gave you a chance to sell me on this lynch. You failed. I do not want to vote Digger. It doesn't have to be info based but "I was right before about Knuckles" does nothing for me.

I believe Digger. So I might actually vote Metro. Or Talon. Probably one of those two.

GM Franchise · « **Reply #84 on:** August 10, 2016, 11:24:33 PM »

I will not be voting for Digger. I think he's telling the truth and not buying the case against him at all. Doug is definitely more along the lines of my thinking on this issue, looking at the people pushing the case against Digger.

Talon · « **Reply #85 on:** August 10, 2016, 11:43:10 PM »

Well that's everyone checking in, no reason to not believe Digger since he has gone un-counter claimed.

Unvote

I still don't like that he is a neighbor, Digger were you neighborized or did you start the game with a QT?

GM Gravedigger · « **Reply #86 on:** August 10, 2016, 11:54:02 PM »

Started with it.

Talon · « **Reply #87 on:** August 11, 2016, 12:06:48 AM »

Maybe TJ is just a bad mod. ...I wouldn't doubt it.

Dougie · « **Reply #88 on:** August 11, 2016, 07:48:51 AM »

Vote: Talon

Talon · « **Reply #89 on:** August 11, 2016, 11:02:50 AM »

Am I really the only one who finds it odd that two townies in a QT from the start of the game would be neighbors and not masons?

GM Metroll · « **Reply #90 on:** August 11, 2016, 11:19:31 AM »

Quote from: Talon on August 11, 2016, 11:02:50 AM

Am I really the only one who finds it odd that two townies in a QT from the start of the game would be neighbors and not masons?

I concur - this just helps cement it in my mind.

Also - Doug - do you at least understand why I'm voting Digger or no?

GM Gravedigger · « **Reply #91 on:** August 11, 2016, 11:44:40 AM »

I don't understand, so enlighten the group....

GM Metroll · « **Reply #92 on:** August 11, 2016, 11:57:16 AM »

Quote from: GM Gravedigger on August 11, 2016, 11:44:40 AM

I don't understand, so enlighten the group....

Normally when there's a town "faction" they are referred to as masons. Normally when you see "neighbor" it means that not everyone in the group is town. The fact that you've said it was just Justin and yourself, and Justin came up town using the normal neighborhood would mean you are scum. Couple that with the fact that there was no night kill last night despite red showing in the write up leads me to believe there's a reason and that likely I am that reason.

Those 2 combined to me lead me to believe you are mafia. I accept Kirk's response that other scenarios are plausible but in this game we can not just rely on 100%. Mafia wins an unusual number of games on this board because town is too paralyzed to act without a concrete 100%.

GM Gravedigger · « **Reply #93 on:** August 11, 2016, 11:59:48 AM »

So I would out myself as scum when no one was asking about my role because?

GM Metroll · « **Reply #94 on:** August 11, 2016, 12:09:56 PM »

Quote from: GM Gravedigger on August 11, 2016, 11:59:48 AM

So I would out myself as scum when no one was asking about my role because?

Ignorance - I think you felt that neighbor/mason was the same thing. You outted it because you thought it would give you town cred.

Again - I'm not basing my vote solely off of this - it's kind of just the icing on the cake.

GM Gravedigger · « **Reply #95 on:** August 11, 2016, 12:11:03 PM »

Well, I guess you got me. I'm obviously scum....

Vote away, fellas....

Dougie · « **Reply #96 on:** August 11, 2016, 01:18:58 PM »

I get it now.

Unvote

In a game with this theme, it could indeed be a scum/town neighbor pairing. I will think about this a bit and come back to you.

GM Gravedigger · « **Reply #97 on:** August 11, 2016, 02:00:11 PM »

So Metro, you claiming you blocked me from doing a kill?

Where exactly is that in the write up, if I in fact attempted this kill?

GM Kirk · « **Reply #98 on:** August 11, 2016, 08:12:27 PM »

I'm not sure I buy this neighbour thing as being much of a clue, either. If we're to believe that a neighbour pair is usually one town and one scum, wouldn't that just be the mod giving the town the name of a mafia member? I think neighbours are there to create doubt and even things up a little, but it doesn't necessarily mean that one of them isn't town.

Vote: Talon

I think he's intentionally twisting "evidence" to get a town lynch. He can easily fall back on Metro's info when Digger flips town.

Talon · « **Reply #99 on:** August 12, 2016, 12:31:49 AM »

You're not typically told your neighbor is scum when it happens. and the scum typically has a safe claim. I've unvoted because after a second read it doesn't make sense for Digger to be scum, he's clearly Amini, since Amini was upset when Rikishi died.

I was going off of role more than flavor and have since seen my mistake, I just don't like the use of "neighbor" to describe what would clearly be a mason group.