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Secret Hitler Mafia Game END! FALLOUT!
« on: November 27, 2016, 10:18:59 AM »
Can you find and stop the Secret Hitler?

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Every player has a role. In a 9 player game the roles are:
5 liberals
3 fascist
1 Hitler (who is on the fascist team)

You'll get a role PM of liberal or fascist/Hitler. If you're a fascist, I will also tell you who your teammates and Hitler are but you keep that knowledge to yourself. Hitler does not get to know who his teammates are. And there is no QT necessary for the fascists.

The game will begin once I've PM'd each player and then reply here that I've done that. Your first task as a group will be to have 24 hours to decide on your first president. This can be done by a simple nomination or however you wish to figure it out. The president then picks a chancellor.

This combination needs voted on by a majority so once the president has picked a chancellor you all have to vote simply by posting yes or no (or if you prefer, Ja! or Nein!). 5 yes votes approves the government.

If voted down, the presidency passes to the left. Below you'll see where you've randomly been seated or you may also see the attached file.

Bone
Kirk to the left of Bone
Franchise to the left of Kirk (you get the idea).
Jon
Powers
Talon
DQ
Dazz
Digger

If after 3 elections you all vote down, then I enact a policy. Boom. Now lets say you do have a majority vote. We go to the quiet phase. No one posts during this! Here I will PM the president with 3 policies chosen from a deck of 17. 6 are liberal (blue), 11 are fascist (red). The president discards one by replying to me with what two he wishes to give to the chancellor and then I PM the chancellor. Chancellor plays one of those policies.

When a blue policy is played, nothing happens but good things for the liberals. When a red policy is played, in a 9 player game the president must do something each time

1st & 2nd red policies, president investigates a player's role (if hitler the president only sees fascist)
3rd red, president picks next president
4th, kill a player
5th, kill a player and veto power unlocked (veto will be explained if we get that far)

Now after this point, you can have time to discuss, lie, talk about what was played etc. Then presidency gets passed to the left and new government is enacted the same way. So say that Jon was president first round, new president would be Powers. The only exception is that a player cannot be in government for two turns so when the president is up, I will say who cannot be chosen as chancellor.

This is the game flow and its fairly consistent. I will keep track of what policies are discarded as everything will need reshuffled into the deck with many rounds played.

How to win?
Liberals have to get 5 blue policies through to win OR Hitler can be killed during gameplay to win.
Fascists have to get 6 red policies through to win OR if Hitler is made chancellor anytime after 3 red policies are through and is successfully voted into government to win.

That's it ya'll. If you have any questions feel free to ask me via PM. Roles are coming soon and after that I will post again signifying the start of the game. I'll consistently let you know what phase of the game we are in and what's needed. Have fun!


« Last Edit: December 19, 2016, 09:38:48 PM by Dougie »

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Re: Secret Hitler Mafia Pre-Game
« Reply #1 on: November 27, 2016, 10:27:45 AM »
The year is 1932. The place is pre-WWII Germany. In Secret Hitler, players are German politicians attempting to hold a fragile Liberal government together and stem the rising tide of Fascism. Watch out though—there are secret Fascists among you, and one player is Secret Hitler.

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It's nighttime in Germany.

• Everybody close your eyes and extend your hand into a fist in front of you.
• All Fascists who are NOT Hitler should open their eyes and acknowledge each other.
• Hitler - keep your eyes closed but put your thumb out into a thumbs-up gesture.
• Fascists, take note of who has an extended thumb - that player is Hitler.[Take a long pause]
•Everyone close your eyes and put your hands down.
• Everyone can open your eyes.

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The game can now begin! Your first task with around 24 hours or so to complete is to decide who your first president is going to be! Good luck!

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« Reply #2 on: November 27, 2016, 02:17:58 PM »
So, I nominate myself for President. Because I'm awesome. And not Hitler. But mostly awesome.


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Re: Secret Hitler Mafia Game Begin!
« Reply #3 on: November 27, 2016, 02:59:48 PM »
At this stage I don't see why not.

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Re: Secret Hitler Mafia Game Begin!
« Reply #4 on: November 27, 2016, 03:09:01 PM »
The mod obviously wants me to be President in the first round and I couldn't agree more.

I wholeheartedly nominate myself as President.



  

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Re: Secret Hitler Mafia Game Begin!
« Reply #5 on: November 27, 2016, 04:41:31 PM »
I will back your ticket Powers, if you were to name me your Chancellor.

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« Reply #6 on: November 27, 2016, 05:21:42 PM »
Sure. Why not.


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Re: Secret Hitler Mafia Game Begin!
« Reply #7 on: November 27, 2016, 08:59:45 PM »
Vote: Powers for Prez

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Re: Secret Hitler Mafia Game Begin!
« Reply #8 on: November 27, 2016, 09:16:53 PM »
Vote Powers for Prez
Nominate T-Bone for Chancellor



(I think that's how this works....)


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Re: Secret Hitler Mafia Game Begin!
« Reply #9 on: November 27, 2016, 09:35:43 PM »
I accept the nomination for President Powers with Dazz seconding his nomination and his choice of Chancellor T-Bone.

From now on you won't have to pick a president it will always go around the table.

The rest of you have 24 hours or so to vote yes or no to this government. To clarify (I read my rulebook) all 9 players vote yes or no to a proposed government.

I will assume Powers and Bone will both vote yes so currently:
Yes - 2
No - 0


5 yes votes total are needed to move on. Or 5 no's will cancel this government and president will move to powers' left. You decide.
« Last Edit: November 27, 2016, 09:36:46 PM by Dougie »

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« Reply #10 on: November 27, 2016, 10:41:07 PM »
I'd like to hear from Talon before voting on Powers.

Mike, why should I vote yes for you?

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Re: Secret Hitler Mafia Game Begin!
« Reply #11 on: November 28, 2016, 12:37:42 AM »
I will be a right and just presidente.

But seriously, I'm not Hitler and I'm not a fascist. I'm as good a pick as any.


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Re: Secret Hitler Mafia Game Begin!
« Reply #12 on: November 28, 2016, 12:38:22 AM »
EBWOP

Why do you want to hear from Talon specifically?


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« Reply #13 on: November 28, 2016, 12:46:50 AM »
He'd be President if you're not.

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« Reply #14 on: November 28, 2016, 12:57:46 AM »
You're correct. I thought it was Jon, but he's on the other side of me.


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« Reply #15 on: November 28, 2016, 06:00:06 AM »
Vote: Yes

Might as well get this game going.

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« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2016, 07:58:06 AM »
Vote: No

Because I'm going to be "that guy".



  

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« Reply #17 on: November 28, 2016, 10:09:50 AM »
Powers is from Maine.

I vote No
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« Reply #18 on: November 28, 2016, 11:05:02 AM »
Already with the political mudslinging. And factually incorrect to boot.

Powers is FROM Philly. Powers RESIDES in Maine.

Tsk tsk.


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« Reply #19 on: November 28, 2016, 11:27:41 AM »
Powers is FROM Philly.

Even worse!!!!! That's where TJ is from!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



  

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Re: Secret Hitler Mafia Game Begin!
« Reply #20 on: November 28, 2016, 12:50:45 PM »
I banged his mom you know....


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« Reply #21 on: November 28, 2016, 12:59:58 PM »
Just for that I'll Vote yes

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« Reply #22 on: November 28, 2016, 01:10:25 PM »
I'll go...

Vote: NO

gotta suck up while HIFL sheets are pending....

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« Reply #23 on: November 28, 2016, 01:11:01 PM »
Whoops.

Vote: NO

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« Reply #24 on: November 28, 2016, 01:51:40 PM »
I will Vote: No

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Re: Secret Hitler Mafia Game Begin!
« Reply #25 on: November 28, 2016, 02:14:51 PM »
DQ gets the tiebreaker!



  

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« Reply #26 on: November 28, 2016, 02:51:55 PM »
Correct!

Yes - 4
No - 4


DQ's vote will decide if we move onto the government night phase or if the presidency shifts.

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« Reply #27 on: November 28, 2016, 03:30:18 PM »
Hey DQ. Remember that time you voted me in as Prez? Wasn't that great?

But in seriousness, you know what you're getting with me (me as Prez/Bone as Chancellor). Talon neglected to state who he'd choose as Chancellor. That seems to me like a gamble.


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« Reply #28 on: November 28, 2016, 03:51:32 PM »
Just remember that Powers only chose Bone as Chancellor because it gave him a vote.

Is that what we really want in a President?

I sure don't.



  

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« Reply #29 on: November 28, 2016, 05:21:30 PM »
As president I will lay out a comprehensive list of potential chancellors, but would first like to hear what the prospective chancellors would view as a strong issues.

Powers could be electing a Fascist chancellor who would push the wrong agenda.  Blind support to a player this early is dangerous.

Jon, Powers, Dazz, and Kirk all have strong decision making records that I would look to rely on.  I would interview each of them as potential Chancellors.
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« Reply #30 on: November 28, 2016, 05:30:05 PM »
DQ, would you really support someone who leaves you off of a list of people with "strong decision making records"? He wants your support, but insults you in the same breath.


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« Reply #31 on: November 28, 2016, 05:33:43 PM »
I'm not pandering to anyone.

You're playing the slick politician here, I am being honest.  Others have good decision making skills, but I trust those on my list to make the right decision.
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« Reply #32 on: November 28, 2016, 06:17:42 PM »
Cue up the propaganda...

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« Reply #33 on: November 28, 2016, 07:40:47 PM »


vote: no

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« Reply #34 on: November 28, 2016, 07:43:01 PM »
Also, apologies for the delay... I haven't gotten into the habit of checking this site regularly yet.

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« Reply #35 on: November 28, 2016, 08:00:20 PM »
So to the names on my list.

Why would you be best suited to be my chancellor?
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« Reply #36 on: November 28, 2016, 08:44:13 PM »
For starters... I am not Hitler... and I am a liberal. But everyone is going to say that, so that is pretty moot.

I don't discredit Powers as a potential President, so much as I didn't like the reasons for which he and his chancellor of choice stood for. I also won't sit here and say that the other names on your list couldn't be good candidates as Chancellor either.

I have nothing to offer as to why I would be best suited other than I have the best intentions for the liberal party. And I would like to have a chance to show my loyalty and honesty. 

This is a game about trust. You are someone I can trust Talon and I believe I am someone you can trust as well.

I ask you to give me that opportunity to prove that trust to everyone else. 



  

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« Reply #37 on: November 28, 2016, 09:12:04 PM »
With a 5-4 vote of no, the government has been turned down and the presidency has moved to the left and now Talon is president.

Talon please choose your chancellor within the next 24 hours and after that you all may immediately vote on it.

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« Reply #38 on: November 28, 2016, 09:14:35 PM »
It depends which team you're on. If you're a fascist, you're not going to want to pick me because I'm going to choose the liberal option and out you if you don't send me one. To be honest, I don't think it matters who you pick for the first one. I really don't think anyone will pick the fascist option for the first round unless they don't want to be trusted for the rest of the game.

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« Reply #39 on: November 28, 2016, 09:19:12 PM »
I guess that's my pitch: Whichever side I'm on (I am liberal, by the way) I'm going to pick the liberal option to build credibility, so I'm the risk free choice for getting a liberal policy enacted.

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« Reply #40 on: November 28, 2016, 11:15:48 PM »
It depends which team you're on. If you're a fascist, you're not going to want to pick me because I'm going to choose the liberal option and out you if you don't send me one. To be honest, I don't think it matters who you pick for the first one. I really don't think anyone will pick the fascist option for the first round unless they don't want to be trusted for the rest of the game.

Out of the 17 choices, 6 are liberal and 11 are fascist. It is completely within the realm of possibility that the Prez only has 3 fascist options to choose from. "Outting" your Prez may serve to put undue suspicion on a liberal. I'm not saying to lie or hide anything, but the way you word/suggest it could be dangerous.

As for why I should be Chancellor? Well, I was 1 vote away from being Prez, so that outta count for something. A ticket with the winner and runner up of the election sounds good to me.


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« Reply #41 on: November 29, 2016, 12:49:51 AM »
There's no such thing as undue suspicion in a game like this. If I get two fascist policies I'm going to announce it and put pressure on the president who gave them to me. Sure, it's possible that he got three fascist choices, but that's up to him to convincingly explain.

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« Reply #42 on: November 29, 2016, 01:08:24 AM »
Such a strange, hardline stance on something that is statistically likely to happen.


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« Reply #43 on: November 29, 2016, 03:17:29 AM »
It's possible but not likely. There are just under 2 fascist policies for every liberal one so the most likely outcome is 2 fascist and 1 liberal. If I were chancellor and I was given 2 fascist options I'd have no choice but to out the president, otherwise I've just appeared to select the fascist option. At this stage I think either side would pick the liberal option if they had it so the policy selected will tell us more about the president than chancellor. I would rather be chancellor when there's more information available and when I think I can trust the president. No offence to Talon but there's no way anyone can be trusted at this point.

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« Reply #44 on: November 29, 2016, 11:58:28 AM »
I like what I heard from everyone, and believe that each of you would be a quality choice for Chancellor. 

I am going to NOMINATE KIRK

I believe that his stance on policy is strong and even if he is not truly a liberal, he will have to put a liberal policy through in order to back up his earlier statements, making him a very safe choice.

I believe all four of my choices would be strong going forward, but Kirk should be a very solid vote from everyone.
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« Reply #45 on: November 29, 2016, 12:53:03 PM »
Vote: YES

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« Reply #46 on: November 29, 2016, 12:53:45 PM »
All candidates are solid picks, so I don't see a need to argue about it.

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« Reply #47 on: November 29, 2016, 01:01:27 PM »
Vote: Yes

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« Reply #48 on: November 29, 2016, 01:51:43 PM »
I dislike Kirk's attitude, but I don't see any reason to deny the nom.

Vote yes


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« Reply #49 on: November 29, 2016, 01:54:55 PM »
I think I was a better choice, but that's because I know I'm liberal and have the best intention for the liberals in my mind. That said, I do like what Kirk has stated as well and hope he is good on his word.

Vote: Yes