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Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« on: June 09, 2017, 04:40:26 PM »
So... thoughts on the voting/votes for the last round of HOF'ers??

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #1 on: June 09, 2017, 08:39:10 PM »
I liked it. If I were to change anything i would like to see guys defend who they voted for if they arent an automatic nomination. Could be fun.
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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2019, 01:00:38 AM »
We should probably be discussing on here instead of the other thread... or on Discord.



  

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2019, 01:04:28 AM »
You can't tell me what to do. 


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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #4 on: June 10, 2019, 06:03:30 AM »
My ballot is similar to Jonís, maybe a few differences but for the most part the same.

A few of the ones that have been posted make me wonder. Stark ahead of McCarthy, Action or McFadden? Martin and Spurgeon on ballots where Robles isnít voted? I get this weird feeling some elite, first ballot talent is going to not be inducted...

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2019, 06:14:43 AM »
McFadden was all pre-GM era. I have no interest in voting him in because he did nothing after GMs joined the league. His success was all just the luck of the draw in the early sims and doesn't count for much against achievement in the true game. I don't remember him ever being good. If we have a lean year, he can get in then but there are far more people who we actually saw have success who should be voted in first.

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2019, 03:59:52 PM »
PUNTER - Hitomi Aoki -- 160 Starts, 996 Punts, 46,506 Punt Yards, 159 Punts inside the 20

2019   CLE   Aoki, H.   46506 - 2nd most yards punting in a season

2019   CLE   Aoki, H.   80 - longest punt before 2020 according to the record book


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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2019, 04:15:49 PM »
He might be a great punter, but I donít see how he deserves a vote over some of the other HOF talent currently there to be voted in.

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2019, 04:16:36 PM »
I'm just gonna enter Thomas Blaine 10 times

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2019, 04:18:52 PM »
Because a punter effects the game in ways that don't get noticed. They're often under appreciated because nobody likes to see their team punt, yet they can influence the outcome of a game by flipping field position and pinning teams deep.

He averaged nearly 1 punt per game pinning opposing teams inside their own 20 yard line. 2nd most total yardage overall punting wise. Because of longevity and skill at an undervalued and under appreciated position, I think he is well deserving of the vote.
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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2019, 05:44:52 PM »
1 punt inside the 20 per game is not a good stat... especially with his amount of punts. Punt yardage doesnít mean anything to me, longevity is what punters do. How many times did he lead the league in punt average? Or punts inside the 20? This isnít a career achievement award... this is the hall of fame.



  

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2019, 05:51:57 PM »
For reference purposes.... Johnny Hekker has 217 punts inside the 20 in 112 games. Letís not put a player in because heís the first decent player at his position to retire. Aoki is just a wasted vote.

I feel youíre just looking at raw numbers and not comparing to his peers at all.



  

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2019, 06:04:21 PM »
Wow. That's impressive. Bring that back up next year. He deserves to be in.
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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2019, 06:30:47 PM »
I'd rather vote for a guy who's been great in an unglamorous position than some of the mediocre players in glamour positions being suggested.
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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #14 on: June 10, 2019, 06:33:19 PM »
Wow. That's impressive. Bring that back up next year. He deserves to be in.

Johnny Hekker punts for the Rams, Gooch...

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2019, 06:44:59 PM »
I'd rather vote for a guy who's been great in an unglamorous position than some of the mediocre players in glamour positions being suggested.

Who are the mediocre ones in glamour positions?

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2019, 06:52:50 PM »
WR - Jonathan Johnson
QB - Michael May
QB - Jerry Harris
RB - Alphonso Montes a couple of years back
HC - McFadden. i'm sorry, he may have been a great in the pre-GM era but he was basically just a character from what i saw of him.

Some of those had a few good seasons but weren't consistent enough to be HoF material. That's just my opinion though and I'm happy to be talked around if the argument is there for them.
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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2019, 07:07:06 PM »
I'm not just memeing, Thomas Blaine had a 16 year career, and sure, most of it was pre-genned by the sim, and all of it pre-GM era, but I think to make a meaningful HoF, we have to his some 'history' in it. A Hall of Fame featuring mostly players who just played the last ~6 seasons isn't really a Hall of Fame.

Admittedly, for a guy like Blaine, we don't know what his pro-career looks like, cause that's not how the game works. We do know that he had solid HIFL seasons before retiring. Presumably a guy with a long career like that had to had some success. I'd like to imagine he was an All-pro QB in the predecessor league to the HIFL. The NFL honors pre-NFL players, WWE honors pre-WWE wrestlers, we should honor pre-HIFL/GM Era players.

I don't know the names of many pre-HIFL players, but with the inclusion of someone like Blaine, that opens up our story to the potential of revealing other great players who were generated by the sim but a little to old to make an impact on us. Maybe Talon has some great ideas already, and it will take us showing some interest in order to get it.

My argument is not one of arbitrary stats, but of deepening the immersion of our world. I think that's a worthy goal here. Blaine is going to the top of my ballot, and I hope in seasons to come, other players like him will join in the Hall.

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2019, 07:23:29 PM »
Yeah, sorry Gooch. I didn't have any HIFL punter stats on hand and wondered what the best punter in the NFL currently has for numbers to reference to Aoki.

Anyways, looking at the stats:

S5: Tied for 3rd in Punt Average (46.6), 1st in Punt Yards (which doesn't mean much as he also punted the most - so I won't mention this stat again). No stats for Punts inside the 20.
S6: 44.6 punt average (not sure on league ranking)
S7: 46.0 punt average. 10th Place.
S8: 47.5 punt average. 4th place.
S9: All I know is he wasn't 1st in punt average. Lewis Thompson was.   
S10: 48.0 punt average. Tied for 6th. Tied for 8th in Punts inside the 20.

Sorry... but that does not scream hall of fame. He was a good punter. Not a great one.





  

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2019, 07:24:18 PM »
For reference purposes.... Johnny Hekker has 217 punts inside the 20 in 112 games. Letís not put a player in because heís the first decent player at his position to retire. Aoki is just a wasted vote.

I feel youíre just looking at raw numbers and not comparing to his peers at all.

Why are you comparing a HIFL punter to a real player? You know the sim is shit at punting, so a punt per game inside the 20 in this league is really good. Your example is irrelevant.

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2019, 07:26:26 PM »
That second argument is much better. No HoF for him.

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2019, 07:27:11 PM »
It seems like there are better punters based on the stats Jon has provided. We should figure out who they are and vote them if they are eligible.

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2019, 07:31:47 PM »
Lewis Thompson and Hai Cooper were much better punters and are retired.

But I'm still not voting them in over the players that I have on my ballot.



  

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2019, 07:32:35 PM »
That second argument is much better. No HoF for him.

The first wasn't an argument. It was a reference without having to dig for some stats that might not be readily available. More of a guide. 



  

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2019, 07:35:52 PM »
Adding Thompson to my ballot. Boom.

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2019, 07:36:38 PM »
Aokiís 46.7 career per punt average would have been 15th in the league this year. Thatís not HOF worthy...

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #26 on: June 10, 2019, 07:37:44 PM »
I can't argue against Lewis Thompson going in. Was the best punter in the league for a good bit.

This is also without knowing the punts inside the 20 stats though. Which I think is a pretty critical stat to weigh in on when determining true effectiveness at that position. But no doubt, he had a great punt average every season. 



  

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« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2019, 07:38:23 PM »
Why don't we know that stat? Is that something we lost, or the sim didn't track?

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2019, 07:40:46 PM »
Why don't we know that stat? Is that something we lost, or the sim didn't track?

Talon posted the Top 10 for punts inside the 20 last season and it was tracked this season as well.

Can't find anything before Season 10 though.



  

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2019, 07:44:09 PM »
Top 10 Punt Yard Average seasons:
2020   AL   Thompson, L.   51.4
2019   STP   Johnson, M.   51
2019   AL   Thompson, L.   50.6
2020   LB   Harris, E.   50.5
2018   NJ   Thompson, L.   49.8
2020   LINC   Ingle, J.   49.5
2016   NJ   Thompson, L.   49.3
2020   TUC   McBride, C.   49.3
2011   KC   Martin, K.   49.2
2015   SA   Alcala, M.   49.2




  

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #30 on: June 10, 2019, 07:44:25 PM »
This year the top inside the 20 % was McCants (ATL)  at 23%. Aokiís career percentage is just below 16%.

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #31 on: June 10, 2019, 08:28:04 PM »
WR - Jonathan Johnson

The dude is top 5 all time in receiving yards and touchdowns. You said it was a disgrace that Wenzel was a "snub" last year when JJ out performed him in EVERY statistical category ...

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #32 on: June 10, 2019, 09:08:49 PM »
The dude is top 5 all time in receiving yards and touchdowns. You said it was a disgrace that Wenzel was a "snub" last year when JJ out performed him in EVERY statistical category ...

Great point, I will be removing McFadden for JJ.



  

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« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2019, 03:07:37 AM »
Houser and Kidwell were no brainers and so is Tibbetts. I like Wenzel for the HoF because of 1 stat that nobody else has. 1 drop in his entire career. Top 5 doesn't mean you were the best at anything but Wenzel had the best hands in league history and his achievement won't be replicated in this drop heavy league.
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« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2019, 11:11:01 AM »
Houser and Kidwell were no brainers and so is Tibbetts. I like Wenzel for the HoF because of 1 stat that nobody else has. 1 drop in his entire career. Top 5 doesn't mean you were the best at anything but Wenzel had the best hands in league history and his achievement won't be replicated in this drop heavy league.

At that point - I'd like to nominate Johnny Hekker. He smashed a Kardashian and never once dropped a pass.

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2019, 11:42:12 AM »
At that point - I'd like to nominate Johnny Hekker. He smashed a Kardashian and never once dropped a pass.

Johnny Hekker is happily married and never smashed one of those nasty Dashians.
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« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2019, 03:44:44 PM »
At that point - I'd like to nominate Johnny Hekker. He smashed a Kardashian and never once dropped a pass.

Great point well made...
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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #37 on: June 11, 2019, 03:48:07 PM »
Jon has swayed me off Aoki so Iíll be switching my vote to someone else eventually.
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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #38 on: January 26, 2021, 03:12:58 PM »
I think good cases could be made for the following:

HC - John McFadden
HC - Benson Stark

QB - Herbert Perryman
QB - Steven Crawford

RB - Christopher Allen
RB - Gio Hill

K - Omer Sasser

CB - Alonso Lightner

WR - Jonathan Johnson
WR - Joseph Dobbins

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« Reply #39 on: January 26, 2021, 03:14:47 PM »
I think good cases could be made for the following:

HC - John McFadden
HC - Benson Stark

QB - Herbert Perryman
QB - Steven Crawford

RB - Christopher Allen
RB - Gio Hill

K - Omer Sasser

CB - Alonso Lightner

WR - Jonathan Johnson
WR - Joseph Dobbins

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #40 on: January 26, 2021, 03:41:15 PM »
Rudino is definitely in before Stark, probably McFadden too.

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #41 on: January 26, 2021, 06:47:05 PM »
I forgot Rudino retired.


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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #42 on: January 26, 2021, 07:08:39 PM »
I forgot Rudino retired.

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #43 on: January 26, 2021, 10:28:32 PM »
Rudino is definitely in before Stark, probably McFadden too.

Why not all 3?

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #44 on: January 26, 2021, 10:32:34 PM »
I think it's ridiculous that Stark isn't there already. 4 consecutive conference finals (I think), two Impact Bowls and a perfect regular season. Sure, he doesn't have a ring but he did everything short of that and with 3 different QBs.

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #45 on: January 26, 2021, 11:59:19 PM »
Iím not opposed to a vote for Stark in the future, but their are coaches like McFadden that have been snubbed longer.



  

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #46 on: January 27, 2021, 04:04:00 AM »
Convince me on McFadden. I know he recently passed and it's a nice gesture but you can't induct everyone who dies. To me he's just the guy who kept saying Boom and Bam and had public fallings out with Digger. I struggle to think of anything he achieved after I joined the league in season 7.
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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #47 on: January 27, 2021, 05:18:18 AM »
He had already retired. Coached Bama S1-S3. 3 playoff berths. 2 Impact Bowl Championships.



  

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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #48 on: January 27, 2021, 03:56:38 PM »
McFadden's case is pre GM era - and I have no problems with Benson Stark but their are better coaches who have done the same [sans perfect regular season ... ] and then some. 



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Re: Hall of Fame Discussion Thread
« Reply #49 on: September 14, 2021, 01:28:02 PM »
2024 (S15) Committee of Peers HOF Candidate Discussion

The following players and coach will be nominated by the "committee of peers" for a special vote later this season.

Feel free to discuss, make a case for/against any and all candidates.  Any additional requested information will be looked up and/or provided as requested if it seems important for the discussion.



Bill Crowder
DC Alabama (2010-2014) HC Music City (2015-2022)
61-67 regular season (as HC)
2-2 playoffs (as HC)
3x Impact Bowl Champion (w/ Alabama as DC)

QB Brian Owen
Orlando (2010-2014), Long Beach (2015), Atlanta (2016), Seattle (2017)
12th in Passing TDs (175 TDs)
13th in Passing Yards (23,809 yards)
7th in Interceptions (103 INTs)
2-2 Playoff Record (65.4% passing, 908 Yards, 7 TD, 2 INT in 4 starts)

QB Michael May
New Jersey (2010-2014), Las Vegas (2015-2018)
13th in Passing TDs (170 TDs)
6th in Passing Yards (31,703 Yards)
2nd in Interceptions (124 INTs)
6-6 Playoff Record (2 impact bowl appearances) (59.6% passing, 2,899 yards, 18 TD, 13 INT in   12 Starts)

RB George Carlson
Las Vegas (2010-2013), Music City (2015-2017), Seattle (2018-2019)
9th in Rushing Yards (8,971 yards)
9th in Rushing TDs (68 TDs)
Impact Bowl 2 Winner

WR Michael Hodge
Las Vegas (2011), Pearl Harbor (2012-2015), St. Paul (2016), Atlanta (2017), Orlando (2018), Lincoln (2019-2020), Oakland (2021)
18th in Receptions (608 Catches)
5th in Receiving Yards (12,579 Yards)
5th in Receiving Touchdowns (95 TDs)
4th in Yards Per Catch (Min. 100 catches) (20.7 YPC)